Perhaps we need more admins?

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AGREED

The usual discussion is what is the good ratio of admin/mod to total players. So get you tally marks ready and some good information ready for the discussion. My opinion is a few good active admins go a long way, but I also believe that every admin should at least be active in something. I tend to play in the very dead of night, where only a few roam around. I usually see Yeahchris online (In game but not playing) and he will usually help when he can. I don't see much during the active times.

Yes. A thousand times yes. I could write you an essay about why this is a good idea.

Okayso: Let's start with the obvious benefits of more admins. The obvious benefit of more admins is more admins. If you get enough admins and encourage cooperation, they'll police each other.

Why you need more admins: Adminning is a stressful, unpaid job. Being a BYOND game, everything and everyone is extremely transient in nature. And there hasn't been a single admin in the history of the game who hasn't burnt out. For me it took about two years. The average admin I'd say is good for like 6 months to a year. And then they might hang around but they'll probably get a lot less active and start ignoring some adminhelps. It's a 2d-spacemans byond game, though, so there's nothing wrong with that.

If you're running a server and going for long-term, you should always be raising replacements. And replacements for your replacements. And teaching your replacements to raise replacements for their replacements. Because nobody lasts forever and you need to work around that.

All powers too. Mod nonsense is pointless bureacracy and also silly. Any player you can trust with ban powers you can trust with fun-powers you can trust with debug powers. All decent admins go through growing pains where they push the shiny buttons, yes. And this makes managing new admins a little hectic, but they grow out of it. The idea behind this is that you want your admins to know what their buttons do so they can fix problems when they show up. And if you have to sit through a round or two of one million spiders kill everyone, I personally think it's worth it?

One more thing! Exclusivity. This is bad. Give people a chance and you'll be pleasantly surprised. Put the responsibility on the role and people will take the responsibility when they step up. And if they don't you can always get rid of them. If there aren't any outstanding problems with the player, promote them. Meaning Tuiee and that other guy who applied. Promote them! Do it! And promote Chris too because best most knowledgable admin 2014 okay I'm done.

As the only admin actually on the server to deal with problems as they crop up for large portions of the day, I have to say that this suggestion is correct, and you guys are misreading the situation. You might pop on for an hour or two during peak gametime and see that 1/4 of the population is staff, and think it's humorous, but for long stretches of the day we have 20-25 players and just me and sometimes Skull to sort out all their problems.

I usually don't have enough time amidst sorting out problems to play, and I can't log out because there's nobody ready to take over. Basically, 2/3 of our team isn't actually on for a significant amount of time or during hours where their coverage is needed. So we do need more people.

Something that could arise from this thread... maybe a better recast system of the game mode votes? Maybe only two failed launches before it allows a gamemode recast? (Also removing meteor *Cough cough!*) :3

Maybe it's timezones, but the only admin I see on most rounds is Chris, and Skull's there too but he's Not An Admin.

Sphere, Sub, Rusty, etc tend to show up for between half a round to two rounds and tend to poof. That's what I see. If you're secretly like honestly, genuinely active while I'm not looking, my bad.

Chris said sorry for sleeping at some point a couple days ago. That is ridiculous. If you can honestly say you're active enough to gauge admin activity and can truthfully say you have enough, then fine. But your most active admin's telling you you're wrong. I'm telling you you're wrong. Every other person in this thread is telling you you're wrong.

And I'm sorry if I'm getting fingerpointy and weird and aggressive and stuff but I really hate absentee leadership. Especially if said leadership assumes things. If you've ever had a bad manager.

Everything past this point is addressed to Sub's post. I don't actually know how to quote stuff so bear with me.

Anyway. Your argument against this is seriously 'people might disagree?' Of course people might disagree. It's a good thing for people to disagree. That's why you're the head of admins. So you can reconcile the irreconciliable. If you're looking for one mindset, then isn't the entire premise of this server a joke? A player-run server where your vote matters and we aren't oppressed by horrible tyrants. Yaaay. It's not a vote if you rig the jury. It is a kangaroo court. A joke. A farce. I'd go on about how splitting from Apollo has been made completely pointless, but that's just melodramatic.

Yes, more admins means more arguing and less thinking alike. You're hiring mediators, not schoolchildren. Do you think the other people who applied for mod are too dumb to talk their problems out? You hire reasonable grown-ups and if there's a disagreement, you talk it out like reasonable grownups. You do not 'frankly fire' two potential admins because they're arguing. You listen to both sides and put your foot down if they can't agree. You don't stick your head in the sand. You don't exclude because they might have different opinions.

In short: Every last one of your counterarguments is complete bullshit. Present better ones or hire more admins. Promote your mods. And listen to your people.

There are a few people who are admins or mods and never get on. Like, Viking. People say it's his timezone, but whenever I stay up super late or early, he still rarely is on.

The main Staff I see on is Chris, Rusty, and Skull and formely Covert.

That's really not a good amount of active Staff. J/S.

On average, the server is about ten:one ratio, players to Staff.