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Post by nikolaithebeast on Nov 20, 2013 13:30:44 GMT
Shall we compile a list of bad roleplay/background story that people tend to do? I'll start, perhaps we can make a tutorial list out of it.
-playing someone dangerously crazy (full on dementia type people who do the BLAH BLAH CRAZY BLAH BLAH thing don't make much sense on a kabillionjity dollar station. Obviously subtle crazy, mental tics and such don't count, as they could still be functional excluding certain situations (ie nikolai is afraid of the dark and always carries multiple sources of lights at all times)
-playing the know it all ('I'm a brain surgeon, a roboticst, a engineer and a botanist, seriously guys I am!') I'd say you stick to two jobs your knowledgable in, at least for more complicated jobs. Obviously a roboticst with some knowledge of anatomy is fine to be a decent cook, etc etc
-the never afraid hero guy (without good reason, obviously. to once again jerk my own role playing dick, nikolai has a condition that stops him from feeling pain, but he gets his own ass killed because of this constantly, ignoring his own body failing on a regular basis)
-The rule breaker for the sake of it, with no actual reasoning behind it
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Post by Ducky on Nov 20, 2013 14:46:15 GMT
-Not giving a damn and walking straight through blood puddles when there's clearly a path around it, or not an extreme, life dangering situation.
-Not washing your bloody clothes (again, obviously not meant in life threatning situations etc...) Because nothing makes more sense than a guy with a bloody suit who's flavour text reads: A true british gentleman.
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Post by farcry11 on Nov 20, 2013 15:15:27 GMT
I'm really, REALLY bothered by hero types. Like, Jesus, everyone's a big damn hero. Some dumbass is always jumping in and fighting someone with much better gear and fighting experience to save their friends, or sacrificing themselves for stupid shit, and it's egh. IT'S JUST EGH. STAHP.
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Post by faithskirata on Nov 21, 2013 2:59:41 GMT
Nothing says "woo good RP" than actually acting like a real person, whether it's the nice thing to do or not! If someone is passed out on the ground, don't just walk over their unconscious body, give 'em a hand!
If a swarm of xenomorphs is giving chase, and your friend suddenly succumbs to GBS and loses a leg.. You're gonna run for it, pain or no, because anyone could tell that you WILL die if you help, and NOTHING will happen to stop it. Maybe mutter some apologies and pray to your god, but you're getting out of there.
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Post by farcry11 on Nov 21, 2013 3:05:41 GMT
Faith's got it right on the dot.
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Post by nikolaithebeast on Nov 21, 2013 10:28:14 GMT
Faith's got it right on the dot. Aye., barring some backstory situations, I can't think of reason why ANYONE besides maybe ERT wouldn't go GAH FUCK and run like a cunt from xenomorphs
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Post by lk600 on Nov 21, 2013 14:24:43 GMT
"playing someone dangerously crazy (full on dementia type people who do the BLAH BLAH CRAZY BLAH BLAH thing don't make much sense on a kabillionjity dollar station. Obviously subtle crazy, mental tics and such don't count, as they could still be functional excluding certain situations (ie nikolai is afraid of the dark and always carries multiple sources of lights at all times)" | Ha! I break that rule with Anna... but I be doing it well :3 |
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Post by danmageddon on Nov 22, 2013 0:28:13 GMT
Never be fearless.
Give all your characters at least one fear, even if they're a confident, big-hero kind of person. Something that might occur on the station, but not constantly.
Guns. Fire. Flaring lights. Drugs. Knives. Detectives. Fish. Loud noises. Alcohol. Darkness. Broken glass. Spiders. Drowning. Being naked in public. Being cuffed. Choking. Poison. Lizards. Dogs. Cats. Bees.
They're just off the top of my head, things that sometimes occur. To most people it's a 'meh' situation, but a lot of you play guys with tough military backgrounds... And PTSD is a bitch.
Courage isn't fearlessness, it's action in the presence of fear. So if you want to be badass, better start having some terrors to overcome.
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Post by witt on Nov 22, 2013 0:44:52 GMT
Also, This station is too damn jaded to death, murder and stuff. When someone explodes and your first comment is "Oh Dear, I stepped in Deans guts. Now my shoes are ruined." and not " Oh damn Dean just exploded how am I going to tell his children" (or something similar); you stop acting like Humans(or aliens) with fealings and more like that annoying AI you keep threatening to turn into a wine rack. On a Heavy RP Server like we say we are it seems wrong to be so Emotionally challenged. If you remember the attached photo we need to find a healthy level of Jaded betweeen what happened there and "oh dear I just stepped in Bob". If not Ask someone who remembers it because it was an awsome RP post exicutiion.
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Post by subdigital on Nov 22, 2013 1:14:09 GMT
Also, This station is too damn jaded to death, murder and stuff. When someone explodes and your first comment is "Oh Dear, I stepped in Deans guts. Now my shoes are ruined." and not " Oh damn Dean just exploded how am I going to tell his children" (or something similar); you stop acting like Humans(or aliens) with fealings and more like that annoying AI you keep threatening to turn into a wine rack. On a Heavy RP Server like we say we are it seems wrong to be so Emotionally challenged. If you remember the attached photo we need to find a healthy level of Jaded betweeen what happened there and "oh dear I just stepped in Bob". If not Ask someone who remembers it because it was an awsome RP post exicutiion. I REMEMBER THAT! Oh the good old days.
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Post by farcry11 on Nov 22, 2013 4:44:53 GMT
That was the best execution I ever organized. The best part was when Marc audibly SCREAMED, everyone went silent as the carp finished him. Post-lynching guilt.
But yeah, everyone was appropriately messed up by that occurrence. We could do with more RP on that level.
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Post by TimLynn on Nov 22, 2013 23:00:02 GMT
Although someone being gibs in front of you will make you freak out. Living in a time where cloning is a second hand thing will probably lessen a reaction. Although that will not excuse shit if somone gets gibbed and your reaction is "oh dear" and not "SWEET TITANS OF PERSES THAT GUYS KINDEY IS IN MY EAR"
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Post by danmageddon on Nov 23, 2013 17:57:54 GMT
-Nikolai has a condition that stops him from feeling pain You know, you hit three pretty big no-nos there already. You have a 'special condition' (Mary Sue) to 'not feel pain', despite you undoubtedly still getting pain messages (Cheesing) and therefore not show weakness and assumably be immune to torture(Powergaming). Harsh, maybe, and I'm sure you can justify it, but it's things that are there. No character is free of bad things, nor any player.
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Post by Leore on Nov 23, 2013 18:44:20 GMT
Willingly agreeing to be a test subject for a deadly virus. It's like asking the xenobiologists to feed you to their slimes, with the promise that the xenobiologist will get you cloned after you die.
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Post by nikolaithebeast on Nov 23, 2013 21:10:02 GMT
-Nikolai has a condition that stops him from feeling pain You know, you hit three pretty big no-nos there already. You have a 'special condition' (Mary Sue) to 'not feel pain', despite you undoubtedly still getting pain messages (Cheesing) and therefore not show weakness and assumably be immune to torture(Powergaming). Harsh, maybe, and I'm sure you can justify it, but it's things that are there. No character is free of bad things, nor any player. Aye, but I balance it with the fact that I ignore all damage, this killing myself more often then I would honestly care for, or at least nearly god damn dying. It's not me shrugging off bullets, it's me shrugging off ALL injuries/poison/radiation/magic monkey bites. I might changing this to a lack of response to heat and cold, as I do feel it sounds far more Mary Sueish then it is, as people believe it's me trying to be overpowered when it's me playing with a crutch of 'I'm critted but I refuse to do what logic says and go to the medbay unless I'm forced' Also it's not Mary Sue, or nikolai would have a crippling deformation that's slowly destroying his spine. Back to the thread: Person who ignores laws because why not (ie the druggie chemist who only makes drugs and never stops even after being arrested and released, being warned that there job is on the line)
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Post by tuiee on Nov 25, 2013 3:41:42 GMT
- I.A. agents aren't the men in black. They're the snobbish, pasty guys that try their best to get you fired using paperwork and slander.
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Post by nikolaithebeast on Nov 25, 2013 12:00:33 GMT
-When someone does something clearly illegal, then acts like they didn't know, then gets extra time for resisting arrest(me every sodding time they start resisting)
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Post by pezook on Nov 29, 2013 8:30:08 GMT
Yeah, because real people never do that, right? Is this why hostage negotiators are specifically trained to keep random people from escalating? Real people play hero ALL THE TIME when their friends and family are on the line. That's why militaries can work at all (they specifically encourage bonding between soldiers because it makes people do shit like throw themselves on barbed wire to keep their buddies from dying).
That's how two random guys in a van can brave a raging battlezone with HELICOPTER GUNSHIPS flying overhead to drag a few wounded strangers off the street. That's how normal, common people can help Jews in occupied Poland despite risking torture and death for it.
So, uh, in short, no. Stupidly risking your life for a friend is perfectly normal and healthy. Running in panic is ALSO perfectly normal, except for the slight problem that this causes survivor's guilt and is actually one of the major causes of PTSD in real life. Failing your friends is also what soldiers interviewed by Marshall cited as the most common stressor (funny, eh? people are actively trying to kill them but what they worry the most about...is failing their friends)
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Post by Rusty Shackleford on Nov 29, 2013 15:17:52 GMT
Yeah, because real people never do that, right? Is this why hostage negotiators are specifically trained to keep random people from escalating? Real people play hero ALL THE TIME when their friends and family are on the line. That's why militaries can work at all (they specifically encourage bonding between soldiers because it makes people do shit like throw themselves on barbed wire to keep their buddies from dying). That's how two random guys in a van can brave a raging battlezone with HELICOPTER GUNSHIPS flying overhead to drag a few wounded strangers off the street. That's how normal, common people can help Jews in occupied Poland despite risking torture and death for it. So, uh, in short, no. Stupidly risking your life for a friend is perfectly normal and healthy. Running in panic is ALSO perfectly normal, except for the slight problem that this causes survivor's guilt and is actually one of the major causes of PTSD in real life. Failing your friends is also what soldiers interviewed by Marshall cited as the most common stressor (funny, eh? people are actively trying to kill them but what they worry the most about...is failing their friends) You forgot about the part that the majority of the people on the station are research personnel with absolutely NO MILITARY TRAINING whatsoever. NONE. ZIP. ZILCH. NADA. If a group of heavily armed men in ballistic armor breached your workplace, mowed down the security force, and then started taking hostages, I would be willing to bet money that you would not do a thing to stop it. And that's something big coming from a cheap bastard like me. The scenarios you mentioned, those are the outliers of humanity, the few people who won't freeze up when a gun is pointed in their face. That's about one in thousands, maybe even one in tens of thousands. It is INCREDIBLY rare for someone to risk their lives in such a situation. Not to mention INCREDIBLY stupid. What if the person messes up in some way? Then the deaths of several people, including their own, will be on their hands. An untrained person who wants to be a hero can do a lot more harm than good in situations like that. You also forget to take into account that this is a heavy roleplay server. PTSD and survivor's guilt lead to incredibly deep and intersting roleplay, something that would not occur if the player went Rambo and took out all the hostage takers. They would only succeed in ruining the round for a lot of people, and maybe even land themselves a ban for powergaming.
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Post by lk600 on Nov 29, 2013 15:27:31 GMT
A quote from Firefly/Serenity will sort this out :3
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