gollee
Lore Master
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Post by gollee on Aug 17, 2014 7:55:16 GMT
As a note, growing up under .3gee would cause severe bone decay, muscle entropy, fluid retention in tissues, and other side effects that can easily kill you.
I would also like to say that Inis' hair is permanently dyed through a genetic modification, one of a series that allows her to work normally in 1gee, as her home planet has only 075gee.
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Post by deatacita on Aug 17, 2014 9:43:23 GMT
Ho shit son Kerbal just went to town on this badboy, also Dea you're character started university at 16, in my opinion that is snowflakey too. Maybe even more so than some eyes and hair. I started University at 16....So I figured that would be fine.
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susan
Detective
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Post by susan on Aug 17, 2014 23:05:30 GMT
I have more to add to this complaint. In the round I just witnessed Roy Wyatt and Kerbal22 as the 'new' Nysa-Nova Cygnus retired themselves to two separate locations to engage in borderline ERP wherein Roy tried to get her to suck his dick or something similar. In doing so both of them neglected their duty as station engineers as the engine had not been set up and as I type still has not been set up. In essence they both abandoned their jobs to go and begin roleplaying casual sex in the dark. On its own, while disgusting, this might not be a large cause of concern. But this is a historical thing with Kerbal. He has claimed prior that he has 'changed' but comparing this incident to his history of neglecting his job to do ERP, it has become a troublesome repetition of behavior. During multiple rounds, Kerbal's character, Jesse Midas Tesla, would spend all of her time trawling for sexual partners over the public radio, even going so far as to sit in a dorm room and say that anyone who was bored was free to visit her. This was true even when she was playing Command roles or when she was desperately needed, and multiple times her not being present screwed up the round for other players. Kerbal was jobbanned from certain roles after this behavior was reported to admins. I'm not sure what roles the jobban was from, exactly, but it at least included Command and Medical jobs. Eventually, though, the jobbans were lifted on the condition that ERP not get in the way of actually doing the jobs in question. During a subsequent round, I was playing Chief Medical Officer, with Jesse Midas Tesla as one of the Medical Doctors on staff. This was during the wedding round for Rayne and April Blythe, and someone bombed the chapel during the proceedings, injuring multiple people, including another Medical Doctor. All of Medbay flew into a panic, as we were already pretty understaffed that round. One of our doctors was a transfer from the post of Chaplain who apparently had no idea how doctors were supposed to do their jobs and essentially refused to work outright. He apparently thought that Jesse was his girlfriend and, instead of working, spent his time writing love poems to her and retrieving handcuffs to... use in one of the patient rooms after he called her there. He didn't call her to the patient room immediately, though. After the bomb went off, a few crew members dragged in the dying Medical Doctor. Due to understaffing issues, I started to take care of him myself, but Jesse Midas Tesla appeared and said that she would handle it so I could go coordinate the rest of the staff. Five minutes later, I'm desperately applying inaprovaline to this guy and shoving him into Cryo, having found him, still dying, in one of the sleepers. A quick search after his rescue found Jesse and the chaplain-doctor in the patient room. That was also when I discovered the handcuffs and love poems (and no, it wasn't secretly a traitor trying to kill Tesla, I checked). Both of them were immediately fired. It wasn't until a few minutes later, during a discussion with... I think it was Hawk_v3, that I learned that Kerbal had violated the terms of his jobban removal in doing this. As this concerns the result of a previous jobban lift, I think it's relevant here. Kerbal had suffered several jobbans on Baystation for this exact same behavior and while indeed the solars were set up, there were still several situations which called for the presence of an engineer. A spider infestation in atmospherics - perhaps one of the most vital station areas - went uncleansed because security literally could not find Wyatt or Cygnus as they were off teasing each other in private. Because seriously. Nysa-Novias Cygnus whispers, "What're you gonna do? Punish me?" Roy Wyatt whispers, "Gonna leave." Roy Wyatt whispers, "'less you do something." Roy Wyatt whispers, "Unless that'd be punishing you?" Roy Wyatt grins. Do this shit in private. I guess people don't change.
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Post by kerbal22 on Aug 18, 2014 0:32:24 GMT
Am i going to have to defeat your claim again, Susan? Nay. I never did this you twit. Ever. I never did "trawl for ERP". Hooolly shit, no. The jobban did happen. There was no ERP. Nada. None. Zip. The Chaplain was practically suicidal so i simply went along with it to keep him from offing himself. He was brought in, cuffed, i had not given the cuffs back.You are bringing up something that's quite old. I guess you don't change, Susan. Seeing as you take every chance you can to be a ass to me. HAHAHAHAHHAHA. That's a good one. No. There was no intention to ERP, at all. I never was going to. Hoooly shit, that's how my character acts? You have a problem with their personality? That's nice. Whine more. Nope. Solars were setup. Roy said, and i quote when i joined in "Im looking for alternative ways to power the station." All solar SMES were changing, the station was powered, everything was okay. Really? I can tell you, i have not once ERPed on Aurora, and i have no intentions to. Keep trying, Susan. Your right, i guess you don't change, Susan. That wasn't ERP. Or borderline. That was my character teasing Roy. She'd never do anything like that-Roy is in a commited relationship. Morals are something she posses.
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Post by frances on Aug 18, 2014 1:18:52 GMT
That wasn't ERP. Or borderline. That was my character teasing Roy. She'd never do anything like that-Roy is in a commited relationship. Morals are something she posses. Teasing is ERP. Additionally, both your character and Keinto's were sitting on the same chair, in a maintenance tunnel. Also, I am simply not sure how you're planning to pass that off as something else than ERP. Really? I can tell you, i have not once ERPed on Aurora, and i have no intentions to. This statement is absolutely false. You won't be presented with further proof, as the evidence is littered literally everywhere, and this isn't something we should have to demonstrate or explain to you.
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Post by kerbal22 on Aug 18, 2014 1:30:06 GMT
Im not sure how teasing him verbally, much like a sibling would, is ERP. They were sitting in the same chair, yes, not necessarily in each other's laps, or doing anything of sexual nature.
Again i say, teasing.
That's purely a OOC remark i made, it has no effect IC.
Borderline, but i never crossed that line, or got naked.
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Post by veneke on Aug 18, 2014 2:45:40 GMT
Honestly, the original purpose of this complaint has simply ceased to be an issue. Kerbal deleted Nysa and has since revamped the character. Whatever the merits of that argument - they no longer apply. The same holds true for this Jesse character. This an old complaint, since dealt with.
Also, this ERP nonsense is precisely that. So Nysa (and Roy, but whatever) are, upon occasion, bad engineers. I've a list as long as my leg of people I could call bad engineers, or who have made bad calls, or who don't do their work, or do substandard/stupid work, or bugger off away from engineering after the power and air are set, or any multiple of the aforementioned. None of it is grounds for complaint. Engineering can be mind-numbingly boring after the power and air are set, so if folk want to play peek-a-boo in the maintenance tunnels with their cocks you can't really hold it against them. The alternative is setting up the construction room for the umpteenth time.
As for security not being able to access atmos, or them not being at their post. Most people aren't in their department the whole time, there's no reason why you would expect anything different from engineers engaged in RP (ERP or not). Also, station engineers do not have access to Atmos, they'd have had to hack in... someone in command should've been with security, or the AI could've opened the door, or they could have prayed to the gods for a sudden door malfunction, or flat-out ahelped it, or grabbed a roboticist/someone with some skills in electrical engineering.
Whatever about the first complaint, this follow-up is ridiculous.
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Post by frances on Aug 18, 2014 2:58:09 GMT
1. Other's incompetency does not excuse your own. Not only do people really not fuck up to the extent they have here, but even if they did, that does not justify another player's actions. "Everyone else is acting stupid so it's okay for us to act stupid" is not a valid excuse. 2. As stated in the rules, "Events and public decency take a higher priority over it[ERP]". In this case, Roy and Nysa were the /only two engineers/ available and they both went to play hide the slasiccia in the tunnels instead of dealing with an active spider infestation in Atmos, for which security had requested access. So no, this was not okay under these circumstances. 3. Nysa was not deleted. Her physical appearance was changed and she is no longer a head, which actually addresses the first point. But since this is a player/character complaint (and involves the same character, as well), I do not understand how you can call this latest discussion string unrelated. There's more issues relating to the player, not even 24 hours after the original complaint was made, and they're being brought here. As for Kerbal's latest reply, I won't bother replying to it (as there is nothing left to argue, you're basically making stuff up as of now), but I hope how nonsensical it is serves to further my point.
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bluesp34r
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Post by bluesp34r on Aug 18, 2014 2:59:45 GMT
Again, Veneke proves to be my favorite newcomer to this server.
I've refrained from stepping into this thread for the reasons that Kerbal could handle it, and that there was already enough talk, and that Kerb had already modified his character accordingly.
Honestly now, this is going into something so ridiculous. So Kerbal decided to ERP (If sharing a seat, and teasing someone in private is even considered ERP. If that's the case, then I have done "ERP" in real life with some of my friends.), is it really something worth bringing to thread designed for SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT?
Regardless, I believe this thread has far exceeded it's purpose.
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bluesp34r
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Post by bluesp34r on Aug 18, 2014 3:03:33 GMT
Also, I'd like to point out, that after going over Kerbal's player notes, I found the term ERP a total of zero times.
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Post by frances on Aug 18, 2014 3:05:01 GMT
Again, Veneke proves to be my favorite newcomer to this server. I've refrained from stepping into this thread for the reasons that Kerbal could handle it, and that there was already enough talk, and that Kerb had already modified his character accordingly. Honestly now, this is going into something so ridiculous. So Kerbal decided to ERP (If sharing a seat, and teasing someone in private is even considered ERP. If that's the case, then I have done "ERP" in real life with some of my friends.), is it really something worth bringing to thread designed for SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT? 1. Erotic Roleplay. Sharing a seat and teasing someone in private is erotic, thus considering ERP. In fact, this is the kind of ERP the rules refer to - we generally break up or disallow full-on sex without a fault. 2. There was a spider infestation in their department, of which they were the only two members, before they began to ERP. Instead of helping security deal with it by providing access, they went off, and did, whatever they did. At which point I spawned a carp to get them to break it up and go address the issue - instead of doing so, they simply moved to another room deeper in maintenance, which I filled with spiderlings. Kerbal decided to ragequit rather than realize he should be dealing with the spider issue (though for his defence on that particular act he got ganked by what had become a full-blown spider at that point and was severely wounded). Also, I'd like to point out, that after going over Kerbal's player notes, I found the term ERP a total of zero times. We don't give notes for ERP. We give notes for ERP that's either inappropriate, or done over game issues. Simply, Kerbal ERPs a /lot/, but this shouldn't necessarily show up in his notes as long as it's not gamebreaking. I've been told of at least another instance where he went to ERP as a head (Nysa) instead of doing head duties, but other than that there's nothing I've really been made aware of. I do not think that diminishes the current issue in any way.
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mrimatool
Lore Developer
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Post by mrimatool on Aug 18, 2014 7:22:05 GMT
I know this complaint isn't for Roy, but damn man, he needs to stop it.
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Post by Dalekfodder on Aug 18, 2014 8:15:04 GMT
I believe Toolio is a mighty fine stag irl. God knows why I think like that. I'm no infidel. Touch me not, I'm chaste.
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Post by Skull132 on Aug 18, 2014 11:54:23 GMT
Oooookay, let's do this.
Original complaint cleared, I do believe? So let's leave it at that.
As far as ERP versus station duties is concerned, a new complaint can be made as it becomes an issue, instead of side-tracking a different thread. Also, note that admins reserve full rights (and have reserved full rights, eversince a certain captain) to spawn spiders/trigger spider infestations to break up ERP if it's conflicting with rules/certain duties are not fulfilled.
Thank you, I will now thud my head against the table.
ADDITION: It's nice to weigh in and shit, but at some point it turns into ganging up on someone. I'm all for the community moderating itself, but that needs to run within limits of what is reasonable. I see walls of texts dismantling someone's existence or someone's character, but the intent is lost on me. At that point, it stops being constructive and turns into something destructive. Read as: something I do not want to see.
And while I do have opinions on what happened specifically last night, I am going to follow what I wrote above, shut my trap, and file a player complaint if the irk in the back of my head grows too annoying (don't count on me doing it, I have way larger irks to tend to).
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