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Post by subdigital on Jul 25, 2014 21:30:29 GMT
We'll I have not read it yet, simply because of being at work. If it's easier to follow and makes more sense then yeah. Night, you say it's not that different. I will take your word on that. As long as this is smoothed out even more with full background and I assume the entire lore team is behind it I don't really see any problem with it.
That was the main thing putting me off. Tool and Nik both didn't agree, and seeing as there lore devs I didn't know what the general opinion of it was. I'm all for new things. ^_^ +1
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Post by deatacita on Jul 25, 2014 22:25:54 GMT
It -is- different, there's different things in the background lore and such. But it's not universally changed enough to confuse most people. The basic, traditional parts of the lore are intact.
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Post by nikolaithebeast on Jul 25, 2014 22:32:04 GMT
It -is- different, there's different things in the background lore and such. But it's not universally changed enough to confuse most people. The basic, traditional parts of the lore are intact. I'm warming up to it, but it'd probably look better in parts, on a wiki or something. It's current state is a bit much in one sitting.
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Post by deatacita on Jul 25, 2014 23:20:15 GMT
....It's shorter than the last one...
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farcry11
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Post by farcry11 on Jul 25, 2014 23:22:18 GMT
As long as the UGNF stays, I'm cool.
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Post by Mr. Majestic on Jul 25, 2014 23:34:15 GMT
ERR'BODY BE TRYIN' TA CHANGE ERR'THANG WHILE MAJESTIC CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
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Post by nikolaithebeast on Jul 26, 2014 0:47:12 GMT
....It's shorter than the last one... But all of it is just a big line, Dea. You know what melts people's brain? Reading a straight line of stuff with nothing particularly eye catching like dialogue, or action, or sex scenes, or turtles fighting ninjas. But if it's in bits and pieces, it's far more swallowable.
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Post by deatacita on Jul 26, 2014 6:30:32 GMT
Oh and to add to the completeness of it. I've got several flags made for the factions added and Frances even is doing a bit of art for a handful of events inside the lore. So, prettty awesome
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Post by nikolaithebeast on Jul 26, 2014 13:22:50 GMT
Oh and to add to the completeness of it. I've got several flags made for the factions added and Frances even is doing a bit of art for a handful of events inside the lore. So, prettty awesome The art needs characters we own casually photo bombing in them. Like Rai eating a pizza in the background, or like, phoebe strangling some guy.
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Post by SoundScopes on Jul 26, 2014 13:39:54 GMT
I like it, Can't really comment on the changes from the old lore because, as a new player, it took me ages to find it, and after reading it I was a bit confused. Still don't think I found it all.
It's a history document, it's going to be a long line of text. To make it more eye catching add pictures of the planets or events that happened
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Post by subdigital on Jul 27, 2014 3:31:44 GMT
Actually read through all of it, (because I have no life). It honestly isn't THAT different. The primary stuff is still there, just with a lot more backstory to HOW it got there. Putting this in looks a lot better than before. Since our current lore document, takes forever to read because of the unneeded fluff and extra details in it. 100% going to +1 this.
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lk600
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Post by lk600 on Jul 27, 2014 17:25:22 GMT
I'm personally split with how I feel about the new lore. My main issue is what I can do about the two main colonies I thought up and what a lot of my characters have heavy back story to. The first would be Ganymede, Jupiter's moon... and the second would be a heavy populated space station, "Nero" that orbits Neptune. I have written about Ganymede and sent it around to a few people, but not sure if anyone really to notice of it... and I had a very large thing written up about "Nero" but it was wiped by accident when people were editing the Lore section of the forums.
Other than that, the lore looks good to me.
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Post by incognitojesus on Jul 27, 2014 23:10:59 GMT
After reading over the lore in greater detail and taking the time to understand this, I would like to +Juan this. My only hope is that the document is cleaned up a bit (a few grammatical errors but that's just me nitpicking). My only concern are new players who won't understand it at first/won't know where to access but those can be overcome. TL;DR: Plus Juan, bring out the dancing lobsters.
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Post by deatacita on Jul 28, 2014 0:56:02 GMT
English is my 3rd language and I don't use it really other than for SS-13 and other vidya games. So I'm surprised I only misspellt a couple of things.
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Post by incognitojesus on Jul 28, 2014 1:02:45 GMT
Like I said, just me nitpicking.~
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Post by Casperf1 on Jul 28, 2014 12:16:04 GMT
I personally think the timeline layout our current lore has is much easier and quicker to read, as it gives an overview of what has happened in short sentences, and then when people want to know more, they can always go off and look through the rest of the forums.
I'd prefer it if we extended on what we currently have but... If we're getting a new map then it's probably fitting for a new lore to go with it.
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Post by deatacita on Jul 28, 2014 14:12:03 GMT
I'm gonna timeline it, again. Not worth doing if It's not selected
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Post by mrimatool on Aug 8, 2014 12:01:15 GMT
While I wasn't happy with it at first, I have spoken with Dea and worked out some kinks I wasn't too ok with. And now I like it +1
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Post by tablespoon on Aug 17, 2014 20:43:33 GMT
It's obvious that Dea's put a lot of time and effort into this and I think it could be worked into a decent backstory. But I have a few concerns:
Firstly: There seems to be an over-emphasis on ethnicity and race. For instance: East Asia is almost entirely wiped out in the backstory...which kinda makes East-Asian characters an impossibility, or at the very least rare. Also, to quote a line from the loredoc: 'For those Humans of Dutch, Boer, German and English descent, New Oranje became a haven from the brutality of the reality of the universe around them.' I may just be nickpicking, the language may seem kind of limiting: In the future it seems conceivable that different ethnicities would mingle in the different colonies, leading to more cosmopolitan make-ups.
Secondly, I think consideration needs to be given for the backstory already in place and in-use by players on the server. For example: Places like New Magnitka and Eridani Corporate Federation should be included in any re-written backstory. I don't think it would be very hard to do.
Thirdly, the universe seems a bit too bleak for my taste. While a healthy dose of war, genocide and general chaos is good for a backstory, it seems that at the present, most of human space is at war with or hates each other, with relatively few safe locations. This also begs the question how a whole bunch of people from different colonies/backgrounds can work together on a space station without killing each other.
Lastly, and this is a minor issue, I would like to see events dated within the Ages blocks, to get a better idea of the chain of events beyond just blocks of events.
Overall though, I do like the backstory, especially with the whole rise and fall of the Union of Sol and the importance of megacorps/transtellars like NanoTransen. As is, I would have to vote 'no' to the new lore, but I can definitely see it being reworked just a tad to a point where I'd happily accept it.
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Post by deatacita on Aug 17, 2014 21:06:20 GMT
This lore is now official. Gollee has decided to add it and Skull supports his decision. We'll address your concerns however
And I assure you, any elements from the old lore that we could salvage and fit into the new lore we are going to do our utmost to do so. Effecting the playerbase negatively is something we don't' want to do
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